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prog ([personal profile] prog) wrote2003-11-18 12:48 pm

Ugh.

Worst president ever. Well, maybe, maybe not (I wasn't alive when Harding was in office, so who can say), but still, when your security team thinks it would be a good idea to shut down the city you're visiting and set up a sniper network, despite the fact that said city is the capital of one of America's strongest and most long-time allies, then I might suggest that you may be doing something wrong.

Why?

[identity profile] keimel.livejournal.com 2003-11-18 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Why do they need such security? After all, it's illegal for any private citizen in the UK to own a gun. This gun law has certainly increased security and allowed people to walk about freely anywhere they want. Why would anyone need protection?

And aside from that, doesn't clearing zones of safety for a diplomat (read King George II (he did not win the popular vote)) define "Target will be ((here)) - please shoot all weapons ((here)). " Yes, security through obscurity is not always the best model, but in the interest of protecting someone, isn't some measure of anonymity useful?

*shrug*

Hope you enjoyed the sarcasm.

Re: Why?

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2003-11-18 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
My thoughts aren't so much a reaction to the presence of security, as they are to its itensity, and what this implies about international opinion towards this country's leadership.

When's the last time a traveling American president, on visiting an allied nation, requested a security detail so heavy and disruptive that it seems more appropriate for visiting an active military theater?

Re: Why?

[identity profile] xymotik.livejournal.com 2003-11-18 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to defend Bush at all, but the security level in the past may possibly have been higher than we realize. Even when veep candidate Gore came to visit Bangor in '92, there were snipers visible on most of the rooftops surrounding Pickering Square. And while it is true that Bush has only himself and his own administration to blame for inflaming the people of the world by causing the Stupidest War in American History, there are still plenty of al-Qaida nasties out there, in addition to all the other normal crazies (Ford, Reagan, the first Bush, and Clinton all had attempts on their lives too). Richard Reid, the Shoe Bomber, was British.

I just love the fact though that they wanted a diplomatic ememption in case the Secret Service "accidentally" killed an innocent. Oops, so sorry, my bad.