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prog ([personal profile] prog) wrote2005-11-29 03:38 am
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Regarding the hour

A weblog from someone with similar sleep patterns as me, but putting some actual research into it, including consulting physicians. One gave the person an actual diagnosis I have not heard of before: Delayed Sleep-Phase Syndrome.

That certainly gives me pause for thought. I was also struck by the writer's description of spending hours lying awake after being sent to bed, as a child. By gar, my own bedtimes were just so, night after night. I haven't thought about it in a long time, but I absolutely remember the truth of it. Have I been shifted forward like this my whole life?

And now that I have a new straw to grasp at, should I try again to do something about it?

me too!

[identity profile] taskboy3000.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
Without having a set work schedule, it is easy to "time slip" into PST. In the last several weeks, I have been staying up until 2AM and getting up at 10A. To combat this, as I have in the past, I need the discipline of both an alarm clock and some kind of regular excerise. As I write this, I'm about to head off for a walk.

As for having a busy brain that won't STFU, I find that excerise is the key. It burns off the extra fuel and so starves the brain into quiescence. :-)

Also, cut back on coffee after 6pm. I'm looking at you, diesel-head...

[identity profile] ruthling.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
How much of a "disability" is it to you these days? There will be a certain amount of stress associated with trying to force yourself into a schedule you're not suited for. OTOH, what do you trade for that?

[identity profile] radtea.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Fascinating. I suffered from chronic insomnia until my late 20's, and spent endless childhood hours lying awake. In my grad student days I would work until 2 am, be in bed by 3 am and get up around 11 am. Eight hours sleep, shifted by five hours. Fortunately I didn't have many morning classes.

Poor diet, not much physical activity and constant stress were probably contributors. Now that I'm working for myself again I tend to get up a little later and go to bed a little later, but not much. The key difference seems to me to be one of flexibility rather than changing a fixed pattern. That is, healthier living has given me a more flexible sleep-cycle, so I can adjust to a more normal pattern fairly easily. No coffee after 1 or 2 pm, and less coffee overall, helps as well. But the supposition that some of us have phase-shifted sleep cycles certainly would explain my own childhood and early adult experience perfectly.

One could tell an evolutionary just-so story about this, too, for whatever small worth that has: it would certainly benefit the tribe if a few people were phase-shifted, making it easier to maintain a night watch.

[identity profile] daerr.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's really interesting. And it led me over to Non-24 hour sleep phase syndrome, which seems to describe my sleep issues perfectly. Left to myself my schedule rotates around the clock pretty quickly.

[identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also [livejournal.com profile] circadiana_atom, though it's rather technical.