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prog ([personal profile] prog) wrote2006-12-15 04:33 pm
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They had cheap and accurate FTL, but they didn't themselves establish additional sub-colonies all over everywhere? To say nothing of manned exploration and mapping missions in all directions, constantly active?

oh well. (If this gets explained after ep 3 I'll be fine with it.)

[identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com 2006-12-16 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Firefly is far from perfect, but I take issue with "more than its share". The reavers-slowly-passing thing (and the general notion of interstellar trajectories coming anywhere near each other) was actually the only glaring issue I could think of. The artificial gravity inside the ships is future-tech/suspension-of-disbelief, but at least they actually show it turning off when the power goes out. A lot of the computer displays and hologram stuff is questionable, but really nothing to blink at compared to pretty much every other show (even non-sf shows set in the present day never get computers right!). River's brain-surgery-created powers border on the paranormal, but there's no space aliens, no FTL/teleportation/wormholes, no artificial intelligence, no time machines or parallel universes or holodecks or midichlorians...

But BSG, though. I'm not going to start listing stuff, to avoid spoilers for [livejournal.com profile] prog, but there's ridiculousness all over the place. I still enjoy the show a lot, but Firefly set a high standard for actually trying to think things through (not just physics but world-building and backstory) and everything else is a little disappointing.

Unfortunately, the Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics site doesn't cover either series (not even Serenity). If there's another similar site that does, I'd like to see it.

[identity profile] keimel.livejournal.com 2006-12-16 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It's sci-fi.

Fi.

Fiction.

Calm down. Take a breath. It's a TV show.

And just to quicken the pace of this discussion, I'll bring it all the way around:

"Hitler"

There. We've come to it. Okay? Good.

;)

[identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com 2006-12-16 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry if it sounded like a breathless rant, but I am calm. I'm just saying I like my fiction better if it makes sense. By the tone of [livejournal.com profile] prog's original post, I think he agrees. We just disagree on where Firefly lies on that spectrum.

[identity profile] keimel.livejournal.com 2006-12-16 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
And I hope that everyone recognizes my smiley in my post. I'm playing with you as much as you're playing with prog and the_gadgetman. :)

Quite honestly, I can't keep up with BSG enough to consider that I know the story. It's such a fscked up story line and it's so completely soap opera that if I don't watch it religiously, I'll fall behind. And I don't have Tivo, so I can't watch it religiously.

I'll wait to borrow a friends DVD before I get too involved in that much of it.

And heck, so long as BSG or Firefly people don't do something like 'han shot first' - won't we all end up being somewhat happy? :)

Cheers!

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2006-12-16 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You have BitTorrent. (Not a dismissal; it's where I'm getting most of my BSG, since I didn't watch the miniseries and the following two seasons when they were broadcast. And since I'm a cheap bastard.)

[identity profile] the-gadgetman.livejournal.com 2006-12-17 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Not to worry, I never take TV show debates very seriously.... :)