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prog ([personal profile] prog) wrote2009-03-10 02:32 pm

Ask Dr. LJ: Stocks.

I have some money lying around in several separate retirement accounts, from my variously salaried past. Because I work for myself now, and expect to continue doing so for the foreseeable future, I'd like to consolidate these various into one IRA basket.

Right now, my IRA has a couple of CDs in it. I think they've earned maybe $1,000 total over the last six years. Whoopie ding-dong. I don't see them doing much better than that, no matter the weather.

One of my accounts is made entirely of an index fund, and like everyone else's, it's been tanking lately. So I am thinking: let's see if I can't roll that into an IRA, and then reassign all the other retirement money I have into it too. Because, hey, cheap stocks, woo! The market will recover eventually, right?

Is this dumb?

[identity profile] dictator555.livejournal.com 2009-03-10 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Your SO might have better advice than me, having studied finance rather than hugging in school, but here's my two cents anyway.

I think it does make a lot of sense to invest in stocks right now. Your first commenter is right to say that if the market doesn't recover before you retire, maybe we'll all be living in caves hiding from roving bands of ninjas (extrapolation). Either that or you'll retire next year having made billions on one of your brilliant plans and then it won't really matter about the stuff in your IRA.

That said, diversification is still a good thing when you're investing. You're young enough to make riskier investments, but spread the risk around a little!

One other thing. Have you thought about Roth IRA's? They let you balance your tax load. Roth IRA's aren't tax deferred like regular IRA's. It means you pay taxes right away on them, but then you don't have to pay taxes when you take out the money. Naturally, it's more complicated than that, but worth looking in to.

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2009-03-10 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Roth is looking pretty tasty; thank you for the summary. One temptation that would have me go with a traditional IRA is that it would ease my tax burden this year to suddenly have my taxable income reduced by a few thou... but on the other hand, it would feel like I was robbing future-me.

Am planning on talking with the finance-studier about it this evening.

[identity profile] dictator555.livejournal.com 2009-03-10 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, maybe I wasn't clear. A lot of people like to do both Roth and Vanilla IRA's at the same time. It lets you be tricky with the tax stuff. You use the Vanilla to game today's taxes and the Roth to game taxes when you retire. :)

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2009-03-10 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohh. Well, that's not a terrible idea. Indeed, I could cram all the money from the didn't-know-I-even-had-it-before-today account into a vanilla for the tax bonus, and still be able to put a little into a Roth before hitting my annual limit. Hm.

I actually two have two IRAs, one of each kind, both with CDs in them... but this is less because I was clever and more because I didn't know what I was doing at the time.

[identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com 2009-03-10 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you implying that you studied hugging in school?

[identity profile] dictator555.livejournal.com 2009-03-10 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm making fun of my concentration, or rather one of them. Organizational Behavior (OB) was the much-mocked, touchy-feely management concentration, as opposed to finance or operations management. The other concentrations thought we sat around in giant group hugs singing Kumbaya. In reality, OB is way more interesting than finance and it's useful, too. But it didn't really serve to educate me as well about IRAs.