Veto

[prog]

Here is me lighting a candle for the untold numbers of people the president doomed today in order to please his unevolved base. For all I know, I'm one of those doomed. For all I know, so is he.

Most of Congress stood against you this time, you son of a bitch, and it will be even more with the next bill. The allies of fear and ignorance cannot hold back science forever.

Comments

[aspartaimee.livejournal.com]

stem cell research is key to understanding diseases like MS. i kind of take this one personally.

[prog.livejournal.com]

I do too, but for very different reasons. I'm so sorry that this is timed the way it is.

[aspartaimee.livejournal.com]

thanks.

also, shameless plug

Stem Cell Wars by Eve Herold

rememer reagan

[taskboy3000.livejournal.com]

Nancy Reagan even favored stem cell research after Ronnie's brain started eating itself. On the other hand, maybe it's time to leave Jesustan for a more enlighted (if pricier) Europe? Who can say?

As for me, I assume that irony will take it's toll on the neocons.

Flowers and chocolates -- my ass...

Re: rememer reagan

[prog.livejournal.com]

You can hope for irony to take its toll. My money's on the fact that he overrode swaths of his own party and somewhere between two-thirds and three-quarters of national public opinion.

He did this to get cheers from his howler monkey core constituency. I hope that he and his handlers find it an expensive and regretful decision.

Re: rememer reagan

[radtea.livejournal.com]

On the other hand, maybe it's time to leave Jesustan for a more enlighted (if pricier) Europe?

Canada's always a good choice--our current government's swing to the right is probably minor and will be corrected as soon as the Liberals can find thier ass with both hands, which should be sometime next spring. And our population at large is so liberal that even our right-wingers look like Commies to the average Jesustanian.

Re: rememer reagan

[prog.livejournal.com]

If only it were true...

[metahacker.livejournal.com]

I just wonder which country it is that will take up the torch of stem cell research. Sweden? Germany? Whomever it is, I see this primarily as an economic blunder, setting research back the few years until a non-idiotic Congress can override the veto...

And I sure hope too many people don't die in the interim.

[chocorisu.livejournal.com]

Very frustrating. If the president can veto whatever he feels like doesn't that make him more like a King than the leader of a democracy?

It will be a good day for America and the rest of the world when this country is not run by a creepy uncle character.

[jtroutman.livejournal.com]

of course, this is the very first Veto that W. has ever done.

[misuba.livejournal.com]

No. When the president can ignore whatever he feels like, via signing statements which leave Congress no recourse, that makes him a king.

I actually think he expects this veto to be overturned, and that this veto is a way for him to let stem cell stuff happen without being held accountable for it by the pharisees.

[chocorisu.livejournal.com]

That makes sense.

It's a shame the system is such that the popularity contest is more important than the decisions. One wonders how badly someone has to fuck up before that changes.

[prog.livejournal.com]

I would be surprised if the overturn was successful. Was the margin of baby-killing traitorous RINOs that large?

[prog.livejournal.com]

Not sure what your complaint is. The president can totally veto whatever he feels like; it's in the Constitution, yo. As is the chance for the congress to say "WTF" and go over his head by combining to become MECHA-CONGRESS through a 2/3 majority vote.

It's very risky, though, for a president to fire off a veto when his own party has congressional majority. If they end up overturning it, then that's a big bite out of his perceived political capital.

Sigh. Talking like this makes me forget how utterly disgusted and actually enraged I am with this particular veto.

[chocorisu.livejournal.com]

Well, this is where I admit to being English and somewhat ignorant of American politics. :)

I understand and echo your disgust. The ignorant should not be making decisions regarding things they do not understand.

[prog.livejournal.com]

Ha, I did not know that about you. (I briefly wondered if maybe you were stealth Canadian, but it seems that most-if-not-all of the Canadians on my flist are as versed in basic U.S. gov't machinery as I...)

[chocorisu.livejournal.com]

I don't know whether to be concerned or pleased that I can masquerade as an American online... I need to take another trip home this year to recharge my Britishness!