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prog ([personal profile] prog) wrote2006-07-19 11:19 pm

Veto

Here is me lighting a candle for the untold numbers of people the president doomed today in order to please his unevolved base. For all I know, I'm one of those doomed. For all I know, so is he.

Most of Congress stood against you this time, you son of a bitch, and it will be even more with the next bill. The allies of fear and ignorance cannot hold back science forever.

[identity profile] chocorisu.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Very frustrating. If the president can veto whatever he feels like doesn't that make him more like a King than the leader of a democracy?

It will be a good day for America and the rest of the world when this country is not run by a creepy uncle character.

[identity profile] jtroutman.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
of course, this is the very first Veto that W. has ever done.

[identity profile] misuba.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No. When the president can ignore whatever he feels like, via signing statements which leave Congress no recourse, that makes him a king.

I actually think he expects this veto to be overturned, and that this veto is a way for him to let stem cell stuff happen without being held accountable for it by the pharisees.

[identity profile] chocorisu.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense.

It's a shame the system is such that the popularity contest is more important than the decisions. One wonders how badly someone has to fuck up before that changes.

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I would be surprised if the overturn was successful. Was the margin of baby-killing traitorous RINOs that large?

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure what your complaint is. The president can totally veto whatever he feels like; it's in the Constitution, yo. As is the chance for the congress to say "WTF" and go over his head by combining to become MECHA-CONGRESS through a 2/3 majority vote.

It's very risky, though, for a president to fire off a veto when his own party has congressional majority. If they end up overturning it, then that's a big bite out of his perceived political capital.

Sigh. Talking like this makes me forget how utterly disgusted and actually enraged I am with this particular veto.

[identity profile] chocorisu.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, this is where I admit to being English and somewhat ignorant of American politics. :)

I understand and echo your disgust. The ignorant should not be making decisions regarding things they do not understand.

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, I did not know that about you. (I briefly wondered if maybe you were stealth Canadian, but it seems that most-if-not-all of the Canadians on my flist are as versed in basic U.S. gov't machinery as I...)

[identity profile] chocorisu.livejournal.com 2006-07-21 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know whether to be concerned or pleased that I can masquerade as an American online... I need to take another trip home this year to recharge my Britishness!