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prog ([personal profile] prog) wrote2007-05-23 12:10 pm
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Tim Powers: Wikipedia troll?

(Ha har Slashdot-style subject line.)

Speaking of procrastination, I mean Wikipedia, here's an edit I made a couple of weeks ago to the French and Indian War article. As noted, I appreciated the vandal's creativity, which went above and beyond the usual vandal behavior of replacing the entire article with "LOL PENUS" or whatever, but still.

What's extra-great is that the modified text lived in the article for about two hours, managing to survive several (probably bot-driven) reverts, including the removal of another WP user's rather reasonable commentary on the matter.

[identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a whole lot of vandalism to that page. Did some class assign that page to be vandalized as an experiment or something? Or is this typical of all of Wikipedia?

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Every page on any generally noteworthy subject tends to see routine vandalism (and just as routine reverts). I would hypothesize that it's doubly true for pages that bored schoolchildren would hit as part of homework research.

[identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if this is a permanent feature of Wikipedia or if eventually we'll run out of people who say "gee, can I really make it say whatever I want?"

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think so long as there is a fifth grader with the ability to say "Ha ha look Trevor the Wikipedia says you're a dork! So it must be trOW MOM TREVOR'S HITTING ME" then the vandals will always be with us.

[identity profile] radtea.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)

Vandalism and other trollish behaviour is the result of a disconnect between modern living circumstances and human biological imperatives. Human social structures, in common with those of other social primates like chimpanzees, are governed by the focus of the troop's attention.

The monkey that can most effectively hold the troop's attention is the alpha monkey. This was realized back in the 60's, when observed noticed that the alpha chimpanzee maintained his position long after he could be physically defeated by younger males.

This explains a lot about humans, particularly the role of celebrity, which has existed for as long as we have records.

In the case of being a jerk on the 'Net, perpetrators get the vicarious feeling of being the focus of attention because their work is up there in public for all to see. This is a nice hot jolt to one of the most fundamental monkey psycho-social reward systems, and they do not suffer any of the negative consequences that such behaviour would bring down upon them in meatspace.

Ergo, vandalism, like Paris Hilton, will always be with us, and for much the same reason.

(Anonymous) 2007-05-23 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I monitor a bunch of pages and vandalism there is pretty rare; the pages are generally for more obscure musicians or other things that random browsers are less likely to happen upon.

[identity profile] ahkond.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That was me. For some reason my PC decided to forget all my login cookies for LJ, gmail, wikipedia and other sites simultaneously.

[identity profile] prog.livejournal.com 2007-05-24 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The only page on my watchlist that gets vandalized much is "Doughnut". (My self-appointed task there is to visit every few months or so and normalize all non-proper-noun instances of "donut" into "doughnut".)

[identity profile] ahkond.livejournal.com 2007-05-24 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmmm ... forbidden "donut" ... *gurgle*

[identity profile] keimel.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn those gnomes and their bloodlust.