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Thanks to a bit of elfin meddling by [livejournal.com profile] daerr while I slept last night, the Volity site is now valid XHTML-Strict, using 100 percent CSS2 page layout -- no tables! That's crazy. I will figure out what he did later and apply it to other things.

Date: 2004-01-12 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cortezopossum.livejournal.com
Yay. I've played around with CSS a bit (not much with CSS2 specific stuff -- the book I have warns most of CSS2 isn't implemented properly by any browser but that may have changed recenly). Tables are good for tables of data, but too often they've been used to force a particular formatting and that's just what CSS is trying to 'undo'.

Date: 2004-01-12 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
I think that CSS2 is fairly well-supported now. The site uses many I-think-CSS2 properties to perform absolute positioning of various elements, and it looks great on the browsers I've checked (WinMSIE, MacMSIE, Mozilla, and Safari).

Date: 2004-01-12 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cortezopossum.livejournal.com
I took a peek at what CSS you had on that site... looks like the only CSS2 specific thing there is:
#navbar ul a:hover {color: red;}
Which is a nifty little trick that does away with a common bit of javascript.

What I want to know is if any browser has implemented CSS2's aural capabilities yet?

Date: 2004-01-12 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daerr.livejournal.com
It also uses "position: absolute", which is CSS2 I believe. It was supported as far back as (later versions of) Netscape 4.

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