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I saw this movie with [livejournal.com profile] dictator555 and [livejournal.com profile] classicaljunkie. I liked it, and indeed enjoyed it more than I thought I would. It gets a general recommend from me.

Now I will complain!

* I was kind of WTF at the "good" talk-show host thinking he'd be able to get away with that show. I mean, this dude was basically Hitler. You'd think that the TV guy could have thought to satirize him with a little more subtlety? That said, the unexpected Benny Hill nod was welcome.

* In the comic, V doesn't pull his TV stunt until he's done bumping off all the people from the prison camp. This makes the detective think that he's merely fulfilling a personal vendetta, when in truth he's also eliminating anyone who could reveal his past and identity upon his public debut. It takes everyone by surprise when he reveals himself to be a revolutionary.

In the movie, he goes on the air right at the start, and then starts hunting people down, which appears to reduce his motive in the killings to plain, cold vengeance, something to pass the time until the next November. This is unfortunate.

* I apparently missed the fact that we see several dead characters among those taking off their Fawkes masks at the denouement. If I had noticed this I wouldn't have thought the one-shot of the little girl taking off her mask to be a weasely cop-out from the shocking and effective scene where she died.

* I did notice that one of the unmasked people was Hugo Weaving. Cute.

My least favorite scene was some knifework at the end that could have been kung-fu clever, but was instead made merely gratuitous by being shot on high-speed film and decorated by colorful animated blood-sprays at every slashed neck and wrist, of which there are many. For me, it managed to evoke both the zero-g assassination scene from Star Trek VI as well as Monty Python's Flying Circus ("And the blood comes out, psssssss! Slow motion!")

And as with The Matrix, I actually rather despise these nastily dance-party scenes of police getting killed in whoah-cool ways. It's not like they're orcs or even villainous men... they're just some poor sods taking their pay from the wrong side. If you've got to kill them to further your intriguing Machiavellian plot, Mr. anti-hero, fine, but don't get all snuff-fetishy about it plz.

Date: 2006-03-27 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novalis.livejournal.com
For some anarchists, being part of the police *is* villainous.

Even though I can't quite bring myself to be an anarchist, I think that policing is only justified because it serves justice; when it is reduced to serving order, it is oppression.

You misread me, suh

Date: 2006-03-27 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
It wasn't the killing I object to so much as the gratuitousness, which really didn't fit the rest of the film stylistically. It was as if the director felt he had one last chance to get his Wachowski on before curtain, and really overdid it.

It's made worse because while all these guys are dying in slo-mo it gives me all the more time to feel really bad for them (and their families and so on). There's ways to make this work... the way the movie did it didn't work.

Re: You misread me, suh

Date: 2006-03-27 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novalis.livejournal.com
I haven't seen the movie, so I won't claim it works aesthetically. My misunderstanding was that I thought your aesthetic claim hinged on your political claim, rather than being independent.

I should also point out that I don't disagree with the political claim that it's bad to kill even villainous people.

Date: 2006-03-27 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kahuna-burger.livejournal.com
Its kinda funny that your general recomendation contains info to put me even more in the "ain't seeing this film ever" mode.

Date: 2006-03-27 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
I was thinking of you while writing some of that.

You would not like this movie.

Date: 2006-03-27 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kahuna-burger.livejournal.com
yeah, that's definitly the impression I've gotten from people's comments, even the ones who really liked it themselves. But now I know.

(and yes, we all know what Knowing is. *grin*)

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