Pandora

Jul. 18th, 2008 11:17 am
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I finally got into Pandora Radio because of its free iPhone version. The application isn't flawless - unexpected events make it have a temporary seizure that makes even the phone's hardware controls unresponsive until it times out - but its normal mode is very impressive. You can start listening to music via WiFi, and then wander off into 3G territory, and it doesn't skip a beat. (Literally.) This is the first implementation of portable internet radio I've seen, something I've wanted since using my first iPod for the first time.

(That said, pulling in continuous data via 3G drains the battery like nothing else. But that's just the price of admission, right now.)

And, yes, Pandora itself is rather excellent. I love the idea of musical-classification "genes". Who knew that I was into extensive vamping? I'm using my jmac@jmac.org email address there, if people wish to connect. (Why, of course it has social-network features.)

Date: 2008-07-18 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikchik.livejournal.com
What is an example of excessive vamping?

Date: 2008-07-18 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
Oops, I meant "extensive vamping". (Corrected.)

Anyway, it's a feature of both the Orgy cover of Blue Monday and Ceasars' Jerk it Out. I have no further information.

Date: 2008-07-18 04:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cnoocy
You know, like in Sting's "Moon Over Bourbon Street" or Concrete Blonde's "Bloodletting" or Blondie's "No Exit".
Or I may be deliberately misunderstanding the term.

Date: 2008-07-18 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmorse.livejournal.com
From the Pandora faq:

Q: What is "vamping"?
Vamping is a term that refers to extended improvisation over a repeated chord change. One of the quintessential examples of vamping is the last section, or 'outro', to "Freebird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd, featuring a 5-minute epic guitar solo over some repeated chords.

Date: 2008-07-18 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikchik.livejournal.com
Thanks - their "musical terms" faq is fascinating.

Date: 2008-07-18 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmorse.livejournal.com
As I've been thinking about it, I've realized that I usually see vamping used in a way that implies waiting. The musical bit that repeats a few times while waiting for the singer to start the next verse is a vamp. (It can also be used as a noun.) I wouldn't normally use it to describe the music under an extended guitar solo. But my sense of the term may be more restrictive than general useage.

Date: 2008-07-18 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com
So what kind of battery life would you project if you did Pandora it full-time?

('Cause my transistor radio gets approximately infinite battery life, but doesn't play such cool suggestions...it'd be sweet if the iPhone could be counted on to at least replace some of that functionality.)

Date: 2008-07-18 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
My understanding is that the datasource currently being used directly affects battery drain, and the 3G is more energy-intensive than WiFi. (And the iPhone always prefers to use WiFi, when it's available.) So it varies, depending upon how you're connecting.

My only data available is that, starting with a full battery, I listened to Pandora for maybe 90 minutes total yesterday, both outside and in, and my battery was in the red by the time the day ended. But I also had a lengthy phone call, and used the iPod, and did other farty-around stuff.

Date: 2008-07-18 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmorse.livejournal.com
Early reports are that the battery supports three to four hours of continuous 3G use. That's if you're not using your phone as a phone or anything.

I've poked at iPhone Pandora a bit but haven't spent too much time with it because of the battery life.

National Boundaries on the 'Net Suxor

Date: 2008-07-18 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radtea.livejournal.com
What I see on the site:
Dear Pandora Visitor,

We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative.

We believe that you are in Canada (your IP address appears to be...

Re: National Boundaries on the 'Net Suxor

Date: 2008-07-19 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
If there's anyone the RIAA hates more than its American customers, it's everyone else, apparently.

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