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Should the reality-based community pre-emptively take back "Obama bin Biden" as a pride badge before the other side can enshrine it as the giggling sneer they'll piss at us for the rest of the year? Or is it not worth the energy?

Date: 2008-08-24 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomanitou.livejournal.com
Meh -- kids will be kids... even if they are 60-year-old rednecks with the mentality of children.

I expect a lot of desperation this election season. So it's best to just be thick skinned about everything.

Date: 2008-08-24 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
Less a question of thick skin than a chance to not let the bastards get away with something, mixed with general awe that the phase in question has racked up over 1,000 google hits less than 24 hours after Obama's press conference. I tend to agree to let them have their little toy if they want it.

Also I'm a fan of taking back the often silly label the right likes to paint their perceived foes with, such as "reality-based community" or "moonbat". (See userpic.)

Yes, it's going to get worse than this.

Date: 2008-08-24 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cortezopossum.livejournal.com
I want an Obama bin Biden button now :-)

Date: 2008-08-24 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com
Oh, you're just a Sore Loserman.

Date: 2008-08-24 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog.livejournal.com
I totally had to Google for that. Ah, simpler times!

Date: 2008-08-25 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theeidolon.livejournal.com
I wouldn't worry too much... The sort of people who would mock Obama and Biden based on a
poor joke on their names probably were planing on voting against them anyway. Every
politician seems mockable if you dislike him. Whenever I get worked up about politics I
take a deep breath and remind myself that I don't live in a swing state and I vote only out
of civic duty--it's not going to make any marginal difference. Especially as a conservative
(sorry!) in a liberal state, I'd rather keep my friends and have pleasant dinner conversations
than try to convince other people of my opinions...

Date: 2008-08-25 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radtea.livejournal.com
I'd start printing up stickers and whatnot. Politics brings out the stupid in people (including me) and gets us at our monkey-brain level. Silly things like name calling can make a difference entirely disproportionate to their "rational" impact. "Bellicose conservatives" (2 google hits) understand this much better than "bleeding heart liberals" (100,000 google hits).

The Right has engaged in pretty much nothing but name calling for over a decade. If the Left can aggressively appropriate the Right's slurs they will have the twin advantage of a) looking "strong" in the eyes of the monkey, and b) cutting the Right's stupid strategy off at the knees, which after a decade of nothing but name-calling will leave them to twist in the wind, where they quite properly belongs.

So I'd like to see "Barack Hussein Obama bin Biden: TWIN TOWERS of STRENGTH for a NEW AMERICA" stickers, posters and buttons everywhere. Revel in it. Feed it to the Right with a knife.

Oops

Date: 2008-08-25 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radtea.livejournal.com
That should be 114 google hits for "bellicose conservatives" (speeled it rong) but the point still stands.

so tired

Date: 2008-08-26 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taskboy3000.livejournal.com
[RAMBLE MODE: ON]

I like both the Republican AND the Democrat candidate. Neither appears to be excessively evil. Neither appears likely to be policy paragon. I'd prefer Obama, because the manifest corruption of the last eight years requires vigorous prosecution.

But I'm so very tired of sports team like condemnations that each side hurls at each other. With W, there was good reason to question his abilities and motives. I think his presidential record clearly vindicates all those "harsh" words his critics had for him.

But, why the hell are conservatives so frightened and disturbed by Obama that they invent weird stories about his religion (which is Christian, not Muslim) and his wife? There are plenty of legitimate policy targets for the Republicans to attack without having to invent fantastic perils.

The dems don't seem to be the ones that start the name calling or conspiracy making(*cough* swift boat *coach), but they don't shy away from it either. The dems simply must take back the term "elistist." Next time that term rears its head, the dems should thank the GOP for acknowledging the intellectual superiority of their political competitors. Would you rather the country not be run by the best and brightest people?

It's not healthy for our democracy to see those of differing political convictions are inherently evil. I'd like all the most vocal political bloggers to be sent to Gitmo until November. Let's just hear the candidates out.

The Founders of this country seemed to think that the average dude could pick a leader (the electoral college not withstanding).

I do confess that in my darker moments, I see Obama's candidacy as a test to see if the results of the Civil War have finally been acknowledged by vast majority of this country or whether we need yet another vindication of the proposition that all men were created equal.

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